this time around the ideas of someone as conservative as marco rubio on board and man as liberal dick durbin on board, this has to be the time this type of legislation gets through. i think there's one area to pay attention to moving forward, toure. and that is this issue of border security. to approve this they want to guarantee that the border is completely secure. how do you gauge that? how does the government gauge that? what can be said in order to make that a reality? guaranteeing drones a fence? something of that issue i think will really be something to focus on moving forward. >> all right. luke always a pleasure. serious luke today, huh? joining us now is republican marsha blackburn who prefers to be called congressman. how are you today, congressman? >> i'm well. i'm well. >> so we have a four-page proposal that republicans are behind or some republicans on the hill are behind. are you on board with the proposal? >> i'm one of those republicans that is -- i'm going to be waiting to see what the details are and bear in mind also we have had a working group in the house and they wil